Long time no news

[Pierre Bellisle]

Hey Charles,

Long time no news!
Is everything fine on your side of the web?

[Theo Gottwald]

@Charles Pegge I hope you are fine!

[Charles Pegge]

Hi Pierre and Theo,

I am well but not spending much time on OxygenBasic. Though I'm quite interested in supporting UTF-8 encoded Unicode. It avoids some of the problems associated with UTF-16, such as surrogate-pairs, and may eventually displace it.

I have been following  the discussions on the PB and PUMP forums but I don't think there is a large enough community to sustain the development of a new PowerBasic. What do you think?

I'm spending most of my time on building projects, and generally engaging in as much physical activity as I can to recondition my 70 year old muscles

[Pierre Bellisle]

Hi Charles,

About sustaining development for a new PowerBasic,
I was hoping for a lot to join your team,
true that we are all getting old, and many of us are reluctant to change.
Life is life...

At a time, I was thinking of building a kind of DDT engine and
emulate most, if not all of PB functions.

PB had a real good error detection while compiling,
this is the only thing I could really miss,
I sometime think that O2 could have more adepts with a little shine on that side.

I still believe that you got the best compiler.
I'ts a pure beauty.


Glad to know you are fine Charles.

Take care...

( Take care you to Theo)

[Zlatko Vid]

I still believe that you got the best compiler.
I'ts a pure beauty.

I agree...
And i don't want to change it with any new 32/64 bit compiler
I am user of Oxygen Basic more than 10 years.

all best

[Theo Gottwald]

Hello @Charles Pegge,

Yes, that is absolutely true. I also appreciate your development work a lot, even though I am not able to use it at the moment. I follow it with interest, so it would be unfortunate if you decided to abandon it.

I understand both your family circumstances and your health situation; please feel free to ask me for advice on either matter whenever you need. As always, I wish you the very best.

Additionally, I am aware that England is facing significant challenges at present, and I would not recommend going there. The situation appears even more difficult than in Germany, which is also experiencing a downturn, as you can see.

[Theo Gottwald]

I have seen @Charles Pegge today, he was logged on to the forum, but it seems he didn't write anything.




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[Charles Pegge]

Hi Theo,

I am still here, lurking in he background. I won't abandon Oxygen, but time is limited, and AI poses a significant challenge to our traditonal techniques of software development. At least I will continue to be a user of OxygenBasic foe my projects but I need more physical activity and less time computing, to maintain good health.

As for UK politics, we have a very inept government, a serious housing shortage causing property to become unaffordable, and a mad net-zero policy that makes our electricity the most expensive in the world. It's not sustainable.

PS:
PBusers.org is now up and running. The registration issues have now been resolved:
https://pbusers.org/forum/index.php.

Nobody expects PowerBasic to come back on-line even though the domain has been renewed for another year.

[Zlatko Vid]

At least I will continue to be a user of OxygenBasic foe my projects

me too
at least i try to make thing called Deep Basic using Deep AI and translate it to OyxgenBasic
in first for fun.. 

[Zlatko Vid]

oh boy
on that forum Charles gives a link is a
dude called Alverez and his PluriBasic ..translator i guess
such a mess , so why bothering with Pluri when we can use PB or OB or even Java
OMG 

[Theo Gottwald]

I checked that Forum  its quite empty at this time.
The Richheimer Forum has more people but i can't enter.
So i will stay with you all here.

After all this Forum is the most beautiful, just from Design.
And it contains still the most Content.

@Charles Pegge I understand the Point Charles, the situation in germany is a comparable mess.
If you need hints or vitamins you can ask me i can give you adresses where you can order.
At least watch you take enough Magnesium and D3 during the winter.

[Pierre Bellisle]

Hi Aurel!

Theo, do you mean PUMP forum won't let you register?
In case you did not know, there is also https://pbusers.org/forum/

One thing for sure Charles, it would have been great to have more coders to adopt o2,
to make the snow ball go bigger and bigger.
It is still the most beautiful implementation of what BASIC is meant to be in my mind.
 

[Theo Gottwald]

Hallo Pierre
Since I am using KI I do not really need the Forums for technical questions anymore.

The new Grok 4.1 and the new Gemini 3.0 are exceptionally capable of writing mostly bug free code for everything at a fingertip. Before I used Qwen3 Max which is also very good.

Also in Powerbasic. So why waste Time with Richheimer & Co. ?
If he does not want my code i will poste it here.

TO be more clear. The quality of the code that Gemini 3.0 spits out is so exceptional that you could even do  a large project like an assembler or linker or an  compiler in  your free-time.
It doesn't mean you get something great in no time- for that you will anyway need  the experince of time - which for example charles has. He could make significant improvements now using AI with his project.

I had no idea about JSON and http-Protocol when i started, and i made the MCP-Server 01 which relies  heavily on this stuff. Of course i could have done it in Python with much less trouble. But i wanted a reliable compiled Executable that runs without any dependencies. So any .NET or Python or C# was not an option.
I  could then have used Purebasic which has libraries for JSON and HTTP, but the string engine is zero-based thats a problem for me so i used Powerbasic and made  my own  libraries.

See:

PS: Its free for download, you can all just download it.

[José Roca]

> but the string engine is zero-based thats a problem for me

What this means?

> so i used Powerbasic and made  my own  libraries.

The code that you posted uses ansi strings, so it can't be used with unicode.

It also uses several global arrays. Not good for reusable code.

[Zlatko Vid]

Hi Aurel!

Hi Pierre ! 
yeah i agree with you 100%.
by the way ..i try to do some Deep AI translation to o2 and seems that work
but i must be very precise

all best...