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Charles Pegge

Scientific Certainties and Uncertainties in our Climate Future - Steven Koonin and David Romps

BerkeleyNUC
Sep 7, 2022




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What Climate Science Tells Us, What It Doesn't, and Why It Matters | Steven Koonin
Hidden Forces

19 Aprl 2021




José Roca

A Wall Street Journal article published in April 2021 reviews Steven Koonin's book 'Unsettled', which is scheduled to be published in May 2021. In 'Unsettled', Koonin, a theoretical physicist and professor at New York University, expresses his views on climate science.

Scientists who reviewed the article found that it builds on a collection of misleading and false claims.

More: https://climatefeedback.org/evaluation/wall-street-journal-article-repeats-multiple-incorrect-and-misleading-claims-made-in-steven-koonins-new-book-unsettled-steven-koonin/

Theo Gottwald

"Climate Feeddback" is a Lobby Organisation funded by rich African Billionair.
He earns the money when you have you executables signed.
So he is definitely in relation with Microsoft and Bill Gates who himself has >10 big Yacht-Ships and Privat Jets, but want you stop using the car.

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José Roca

> "Climate Feeddback" is a Lobby Organisation funded by rich African Billionair.

And we know it because you say it, without giving any evidence. Right?

Climate Feedback (CF) is a web-based content annotation tool that allows qualified scientists to comment on stories online, adding context and noting inaccuracies.[1][2] It is one of three websites under the Science Feedback parent organization that fact-checks media coverage. Science Feedback is a non-profit organization registered in France.[3]

The CF website asks climate scientists in relevant fields to assess the credibility and accuracy of media stories related to climate change.[4][5] The website published its first review in 2015.[5] The website was founded by Emmanuel Vincent, who has a PhD in Oceanography & Climate from Université Pierre et Marie Curie.[6] Vincent partnered with the non-profit Hypothes.is, who created a free Internet browser plug-in that allows users to make sentence-level comments on web pages, to create an evaluation of content. Climate Feedback, an application of the Hypothes.is platform to climate science communication, allows active climate scientists to add comments.[7]

Wikipedia.

The website was founded by Emmanuel Vincent, who has a PhD in Oceanography & Climate from Université Pierre et Marie Curie.

Where do you get that it was founded by an African billionaire?



Charles Pegge

Another good debate:

Is Carbon Dioxide Endangering the Planet? Craig Idso vs. Jeffrey Bennett. A Debate

The Soho Forum
6 May 2019




José Roca

Craig D. Idso is the founder, president and current chairman of the board of the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change,[2][3] a group which receives funding from ExxonMobil and Peabody Energy and which promotes climate change denial.

He is the former Director of Environmental Science at Peabody Energy,[2][7] and a science adviser to the climate change denialist group The Science and Public Policy Institute,[3] which also receives funding from ExxonMobil.

Idso is a lead author of the reports of the Nongovernmental International Panel on Climate Change (NIPCC),[8][9] a project sponsored by the Heartland Institute.[10] An unauthorized release of documents indicate Idso received $11,600 per month in 2012 from the Heartland Institute.[11]

The Heartland Institute is an American conservative and libertarian public policy think tank known for its rejection of both the scientific consensus on climate change and the negative health impacts of smoking.[2]

Founded in 1984, it worked with tobacco company Philip Morris throughout the 1990s to attempt to discredit the health risks of secondhand smoke and lobby against smoking bans.[3]: 233–234 [4] Since the 2000s, the Heartland Institute has been a leading promoter of climate change denial.[5][6]

Theo Gottwald

Here are some billionaires who are actively involved in addressing climate change:

Jeff Bezos: The founder of Amazon has launched the Bezos Earth Fund, which is endowed with $10 billion and serves to fund initiatives to combat climate change. He owns >16 Cars, also several Mega-Yachts and Private Planes.

Bernard Arnault: The CEO of LVMH has committed to making his companies more sustainable and has invested in various environmental initiatives. He owns >50 Cars, also Yachts and Private Planes.

Yvon Chouinard: The founder of Patagonia is known for his commitment to environmental causes and has made sustainability a core part of his business model. He also owns several Cars, also Yachts and Private Planes but solely through his comapany.

Marc Lore: The former CEO of Walmart eCommerce U.S. and founder of Jet.com has invested in various sustainability initiatives and companies. He owns >10 Cars, and Private Planes.

Gwendolyn Sontheim Meyer: An heir to the fortune, she has invested in sustainable agriculture and clean energy projects. He owns >10 Cars, also Yachts and Private Planes. His Company is wellknow for their attitude.


Phil Knight: The co-founder of Nike has made significant donations to climate change research and sustainable business practices. He owns >10 Cars, and Private Planes.

Robert F. Smith: The founder of Vista Equity Partners has invested in companies that are developing innovative solutions to environmental challenges. He owns >10 Cars, has Ships and Private Planes through his Company.

Jensen Huang: The CEO of Nvidia, has made significant contributions to the development of AI technologies that can help address climate change. He owns >10 Cars, has Ships and Private Planes through his Company.

Bill Gates: The co-founder of Microsoft has invested heavily in clean energy technologies and written a book on how to avoid a climate disaster. He owns >10 Cars, has >12 Ships and at least 6 Private Planes partly through his Company.

Elon Musk: The CEO of Tesla and SpaceX has made significant contributions to the development of electric vehicles and renewable energy technologies.

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Rod Macia

Your Billionaire list,

I guest your are trying to make a point they are hypocrites because they own many vehicles and they try to address human induced climate change. A very weak point in my opinion.

It doesn't matter if they own 1 or 1000 vehicles, they can only use one at a time. At that level all those possessions are just collectables, just like many of the other useless thing rich people acquire for prestige.


Theo Gottwald

If you ask me, i think they can also use big Mega Yachts which need 1000 times more fuel then a normnal car.
And they can fly in Private Jets.
Is not my business I am not a Climate-Scam Activist.
BUT IF I would be, i would not drive their cars and not fly their planes.
And at the same time tell other people they have to use bicycle instead.


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