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Title: Domes
Post by: Theo Gottwald on August 12, 2023, 09:31:34 PM
@Charles Pegge
Which of these Geodesic domes would you like most?
#AI-Domes :-)
Title: Re: Domes
Post by: Charles Pegge on August 13, 2023, 05:04:19 AM
My favorite base structure:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AIL4fc8bVm_zeoJY40a6ZJdXOKtuvGZqtObYpEoc-ctmLW-Fu0SBKj5qEo0xgq2iSpXlVCj1aPantVmcanip14tw6enq7wyEmwHmOrlGs9RVsiFMOiCSbGe2dU4dFBTnaG2hq6wdp-bvo8H81X_BvpHoJ6d8=w468-h385-s-no?authuser=0)

Mounting:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AIL4fc86vQ0N6CvuzCT9kHoLENvDbwii6y57PJb_PztMtfR1BiKVeKkeWqp232LmrS3uxl2jPCFwmPPy6aPuitcqkeyIjOLNTVFQi7njN6Gjv4xkg2gfQPDoX-BeDmT5LX-E9yt4dqgr9BoSME9-w9aNLzaLqbUW49ZFy-0HlJiv4PgV2zwExXyE8Zl-hFIQJ6loDWRUPkv4HtrQjD9b43wYqZtvSgq43hcczdvDQ9VG-5eNFXNLuXpAY2SAExoPRg-Z0ZN8WK_TTQecfoB5WN-FBpkLSInM1ysWRm_9HsNFwrMghtNb2EKXDEXB_k72zkqbXz9cB4zeKCTMNPdgbFwxtmBoKxWJTH-urE8KcCcFt_5YRN4QXy76oxqguvN-g4t7ot6DGkH2msVXuXT2-eva3mo7KM4o3zC1utgO1DnFx5U-NefqGOmtAgtuRE0APO5NP4kLkt1ey3L0AeB8zijmi1aFFF2jhjrejPzoxovYy6y_3--3AGw_ooANlxzQPpCPXhO7tqDonafl0fTb4pjBu7x-ME2L_W1r1GgqJECvcg-4hZaxVWiLRR9D20pX1A7BgQPl3sG0HVquGyO7HnIcA5DyhZp9m01etzOIAMWZZB7g-iiAoNYOKaTWtEvuCjiuvFXjl1_5bgmvL0U5u2jh_j7jGUwA6crQe9GRotCxPJYP3nqJkxc70sCG6iwzRfpQkyCComZVXM0EALiCpAncQXs8-DGV_zjjgZbc3B9yQo_TZlTpmOfyi3zB-fbePVDLaJP4Kmw_-qA7ns7DCH8z5d2ElSumcKy9uxOtVqGi2Ar36IeB8dNPdTV_FOPX0cWXqGKVvx0fsHtSN4K2b1atP7Qexx2nUfDowuNTUqEDJxfJzjIjwJT8hgq_IDK066-RZdDfmcuIvi-YgmEAnUZ1e1_tng=w1064-h798-s-no?authuser=0)
Title: Re: Domes
Post by: Theo Gottwald on August 13, 2023, 07:39:25 AM
Do you make these for Plants or for People?

Here is a large one that you can visit in Germany, it contains a Roller Coaster.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKcKWHmXMAYrNpo?format=jpg&name=large)

Title: Re: Domes
Post by: Charles Pegge on August 13, 2023, 11:35:18 AM
Not yet. I built the hex dome for my friends a long time ago.

Here is a POV-Ray visualization: Complexity is effortless on the PC :)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AIL4fc9K3OWGdd_Zk4CFoPQsgY3Mxtf2yjoS0r-csQp_N2S8y5-j-C2xX7ixpT9_CdIrvR5gTuuNacPlgO81NQ4tl76rR80bxbpmNqSrJ_nMygkXFwZQSIinCPBLDTlNfI1EBoly2tSdjtujTooc3rFeWx0h=w810-h648-s-no?authuser=0)

Title: Re: Domes
Post by: Theo Gottwald on August 13, 2023, 12:13:30 PM
I still have POV Ray installed. To make that Person in POV is not easy.
Unless you can convert some available Geometry.
However the Language of POV-Ray is good to be generated using Generators.
But I think that this sort of Engines will mostly be replaced by AI.
Unless in Architecture.
Title: Re: Domes
Post by: Charles Pegge on August 13, 2023, 01:10:40 PM
I used POSER for the figures, and a few other resources. I think I used PowerBasic for the geometry ~2004

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AIL4fc8sZ3GHOiboSdL_jFxOpVdXG7LQuVVDi0IBwn3pQnAtt716WjAZyNC4FQ9ZDo6FPQglQzGda4DDgjrZykcpuvNDWAuIWMDxCNNYMcvoKIsAGH22jkGGgTC1Z_lagYSpLj8Ols4nT8tz41I_KmdGDVyB=w998-h798-s-no?authuser=0)


(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AIL4fc_-xP1Cs6eN48nlgvx54D3peeGzFzXfCiKss0UUQ-Q9Zf-oJdZuRd1gw0hN87TUSuJMbEupUtV_lCKdvt5buRHxYlsEr686U5AYy6ZeNfyeX2tXKgU2NMt9mI_RGr9EhpeEQwCGCJ--aWrzC9iWneyG=w640-h480-s-no?authuser=0)
Title: Re: Domes
Post by: Theo Gottwald on August 13, 2023, 05:27:30 PM
Ok, Poser. Yes that could work.
Then also the Horse is from Poser.
As said these days i would recommend you to use
Automatic1111 (https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki/Install-and-Run-on-NVidia-GPUs)
Which is completely free, uncensored and makes amazing pictures.
Title: Re: Domes
Post by: Charles Pegge on August 14, 2023, 04:32:29 PM
3d models would be ideal so that shadows and light can be correctly cast.
Title: Re: Domes
Post by: Theo Gottwald on August 15, 2023, 07:36:32 AM
In that case i recommend you to use Blender - which is also free.



This one is possibly a bit outdated:

Click here to see more such videos.
Blender and Geodesic Domes (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=blender+geodesic+domes+addon)

This is the final Built:
Title: Re: Domes
Post by: Charles Pegge on August 15, 2023, 11:24:23 AM

So far, nothing beats cardboard and calculator for modelling. But some CAD in O2 would be useful for fine tuning.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AIL4fc-3Wie8nXEHd-k_wEkw-1eBxmPMPZE1itxqj-kRcyV4xm8wKr480iRo3gYJaRztEnOn_NQMAskc26vZvI7VSbavNWY4-TkOVFfs_ZPURs5ksHstvpFnpN7pfzmkxzH_N-gVgIEMHyiZ_w7kdJZPDRaYpJqokh1ChFj7jdwVzpc-1mZjOzjLrRYXPdyYgujMAl-zOd3Wy9Fypd92omKIg2E60w_NVp1zhD5OOEzcgqsYw8P73pp2yJA2D_OnoIjVRQRPO6jurK5Zp5SB7qyKFGDTwdLtObiZS9yA4SKpqzl1rFz3YerB9jv-pYiQ7nyGPREuDlnZ9mvC0ICMuLb0oWT5beqGh3BoyEPi3RX1zBPpUZ4UJeNfccp796o08z7vp3LVU9LWY7zf8GLMzG8Gv0XjzjobNlTRGCRyUVFtTmODiLi1iiJ3rTb0bKaKJBpxqrrdh01_mlvXk0Pd0Eh3wYN789J7vZ-mzg55Oq5LhSPDMcB9bpy1f4TEyo6uZSbgX2aPTMLK0A8ixju7tuZttuYljVbjTSPUa96YA3Jc2jHgXHUVF2DeJDnug-S3AM6GrGe98N7svgXfxTsJkl5ifssPz1Ezd6YgOZNYoQNXQHJ2nATrJDDnEXfvodYWPSr3fO1M5Zb6NrOIuU724vzfZMYw599XZH1nuoqvZceQnmzSm8wr3PqRl-ci2nLND9-KtXLvymadzDdUUWUyusveXWhMe0NAvg9Q7uM08WyTHKuU7ULZ-XH-W2xSuog6zE6rLjTiFPz0FMj12xiuaQXfvU-zTgxJGbwWsiG0EQPufHpJG8GfQ-j7mVW6Cpi5lPIj58ICffmJv_hSfJSNq6OpRwKerudxu09g5d-74kqM5JfW4Ovs4nUlENyyiQOhoKkgrWeZnxYyGAxNtFhY30TKwAQCQA=w1064-h798-s-no?authuser=0)
Title: Re: Domes
Post by: Theo Gottwald on August 16, 2023, 09:58:32 AM
At least it will also work without electricity, why may soon be interesting.
:-)
Besides that you can use Blender to make the Models see below as it has "Paper" Option.
Title: Re: Domes
Post by: Charles Pegge on August 17, 2023, 01:27:29 AM
Developing a model of a classic geodesic:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AIL4fc8A7iY3TroeM-C1l0tP-czX5n0U0McnDk23a2STkEEvkpoqTPjDBZtYpa4fCBDk9S_be8xbJT_Sjhj26hlezUEijt5mCzNWa70TDlNxYrUMj2xuMFyOmr53FoX-QkEbQv1D6B9BR_9nHPF3ATILkL87QyzJSml8l4qvtxli4Cw_iSHtrHpl6U5LPns7J4LYo4x0ncrfGUxZOtbptVrnTgDZ3wFFx90yKe8Nr9ndQeihfRJw2QWwMdIBJDXwQfLaXQ-JKhBaVLuwxDEMPjIo4K7DarWT2VJkU-di5LNSR46ya90R0jrTpFXT3CUPwhuS9Zq_BoRTS84XX-xgMQX5NA9z1i87h3u9HxZobHQTra282VBfZ8MGRed4l5K7EQ5j2Pmpszv8uQLXEoNJrcIUcG6o6gPw7meHR6snlBJTGfr_69SL2vsgiPIkSP_6ngzFqUZrESD1IXeamkdyV05yMsOdc5doGLi8Sbp3mdqbUxEBgD5lizRGgaHQHFaupAY1Y50Ydf97JWmas6UL74iyolNXqX0D6CYeBwvoKib7eeW1tWOeFbSapQ-je-DK4_aQ3KOhnGMSn-DT6czI2J3uL33idkb_i7BJuuGoPHeOBhD3LXUSZXK4Lxosp6a5wjdTp6BfcBAHoJW3Mqg2-L1rdWO-46ETRnUzPBQyzBbfuZEvD-0KKhzP2FPs4CYvjZbTHe7lMUTliMjnCZa-Usb7BswM2oq79acD7HIne5G9Mbensf8JLy-ntHIWtLd3c7eP4F5uyttzMPIaIaii2eb9DBaR12znvTZMVGYL6AihlSf8vrgMfPnpaleD-1PycCLifxJpxqFXjBPB3GPkSLDHvd7c8V8Ahg4fpO6tTOTtS_JLpXpvLjQOG9PWxow803mtme1VR_AMg16HfcG6byqrAEsrDQ=w1064-h798-s-no?authuser=0)


(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AIL4fc-53RUpooKTL2VMrn0KjAgDmW1pvyZ5ZsMf0gZ7OyazRNT4DrPCNlSgGw4hvY0coLUpjRmSflK0jUb3-_eCIgUKP8M-nqw1FY7gYab5cHWyBp2F5tY9Ay6htIdNtJSmXI1CTwPvi4RHAs2HSYydcd2ffSuELHLpDv9IhmNJgrXoLk4JLrvDU5nxeiJd9FNVuDBsI_fsjrGns38E5Wd_dlcMBtyIh4BJY8ds57HKt9n2OTgcdfsbFPpO1-PUoxyoUsFt1dKD4Sz3i4C4w5uqcgHLi2RDSM9TZKAqzZYCBnDAPLAMqeJI-ZEN6k7YUUlEg4v9poChufB5GdTvHvzTpYEsybf6Aq3L6_A-n3rngCIAN8_INTMgnvMjtDiPzghs2o37f1GgEkhdx9Ioo1wRYfnmc880vS2iOb_4xVPNPohXokoYVgLuLBalN1qayBU2rYZ840-CZ2G3Oxl-HHd9F7crf5wFWj9PzNACBI6bNllxzgr2WcE_-Fnyk46nhBWOH3Xr2iWpAm9QcE02dFvcPrWE9Acv6fqJl_nBGT43ifSd749kpZKuSlFbJKnQRpmm226u2rvztBUz3cZ-EvVW6BEpkgX-PacGWhJNU4Y9JSoX9PapiEXPTLD-8g5bEhhJxZEV7zQfHqtbCEBRoODef5n0mFz10DfDaawpXbj3Pm613JI2fkLBOYmPDkw4C8saAGcnvjeFQ2WDkt9xfSWt1WeyyDpZxQ_x49rYtZx1HH4ET3KYBlYzImMTXyQhtZ47boyaSwYWx_4Hl13sElYiOmYQoe5EvaFabROArLg16f9PtbZgngkPLsm4wnvXfsMq6lJdTSo8cJ2u6YXoFAF6s6uSHfGlw5y-QCJQETMjCpiWFoOihQ72crOnqO7N5lB5SgL-sv4EwhTjM1elpRK8tUS1Ig=w1064-h798-s-no?authuser=0)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AIL4fc9tQYQoQMKpVChPxMf5cDJici5Ikj0tq8qBY-D88MDISM_r2NuN06glcFPLZrsZTE70UzMwWZdoB5vQ6yWmpxi3x4YGX1qndEMkKNqkvty3nDAR_oCFw9PMHow8-CmzrXD-rx3bq5U0OtJq9S6zjEMbB-wDKbVxfa58tOOOdv1HHsWW4t4A5iZiOuWlXFJiWdFOoC6Yt4ciy3OQ4Qdv4HFxLo445pQ73erNr4dWjAMrwQgtGzdwLd_L5-FWIhVnFNPRBs0BRV95-P6DxYQ3G4ZhfU8Oi3hHdJIEYOR6ptxgmldub5tjyII_KMAUvAcrh0N0NODpMSpGMgyZE38kXWlpgir4yMdRnwdqQIVrY5HvW47KoNYTB1z1yLgM-_b5yORdrllaAzbLEEfEkZomgTG1CPamiz0DCnxaXYsx19o9tTDtTGlNvEjDRAt1mO5OrWN2LNGNRkVcE4CfG46wtg7pn-y06cZ00VDx68kCWD3K-8-s_ksxRqxQ8pYv1zrXcwaMpYi9EWaLIOoAHz46TS-dgbiLOHyti9B24fdUr3mLLny4kz01-Sxvd1j9SxRZ1g73KIuCdEN0YaBLn8C5t8ZyqpdubgsiXtE4LSwl4vecDEc8oSpiM5gZPh_QrKj5rVloOtiwGVB7umuIV5mlRxvLn1elS9dnwNrLwbXprhsemI8ozDPPWbH5Y1swjW38UENPl6UOsSGtjioNBsOYSs5XTPD45DKWhaFeVSUgmVZUZbv1msqgBFMBHR724a8YJ1omvy6wkL3I3Ly9cIGyVC99-OFLXNlsskR6prg0JLCuLm6U1twEnYHk_QNhZEV63I3lcfnPaDX24tAqTAVxOx99AqlHaSCTitElKFotQOh5-d0syKIcz_Xl2cP0zkTtYJR6NjYdekZSpbuul3BlIrKrvQ=w1064-h798-s-no?authuser=0)


Title: Re: Domes
Post by: Theo Gottwald on August 18, 2023, 07:49:11 PM
My ideas what this is good for boils down to, "if you want to get in contact with Aliens?" :-)
I means why just this Geometry?

Here is a Sample how you can print such a Geodesic House for your cat:

geodesic-dome-cat-house-pine-tree-cutouts (https://www.printables.com/model/276891-geodesic-dome-cat-house-pine-tree-cutouts)
(https://media.printables.com/media/prints/276891/images/2457175_e3926cb9-7c00-44b9-b298-1909c6702205/thumbs/inside/1600x1200/jpg/img_4735-min-1.webp)
Title: Re: Domes
Post by: Charles Pegge on August 19, 2023, 01:11:07 PM
Domes are not ideal for house construction but how about building a house inside a dome. This was built inside the arctic circle. They use the extra dome space to grow fruit and veg, even grapes!

Sustainable Arctic DOME HOME recycles water & grows food!

Tiny House Giant Journey
12 august 2022


Title: Re: Domes
Post by: Theo Gottwald on August 19, 2023, 02:55:17 PM
It may be of advantage against radioactive or volcanic fallout,
and in the dessert or in polar area- in case you have a private AKW to heat it up.

For normal Houses i think the outside dome will destroy the landscape.

Hmm .. Thinking about England and the prediction that it will go sown in the flood, it may even be interesting for Underwater Civilizations

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Title: Re: Domes
Post by: Charles Pegge on August 20, 2023, 12:19:29 PM

Large-scale use of hexadomes:

The Eden Project

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Eden_project.JPG/1024px-Eden_project.JPG)



https://www.edenproject.com
Title: Re: Domes
Post by: Theo Gottwald on August 20, 2023, 06:10:47 PM
For tropical holidays in colder environment - interesting.
I like it.

Adding some more pictures that I got testing the SPR today.

From left to right: Nordic Race, Eskimo, Korean and African Race.

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Title: Re: Domes
Post by: Charles Pegge on August 21, 2023, 02:47:01 AM

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AIL4fc_LbjK4EYnGQKY3ssxqAORIQyPeVae_jH3bzZy2jCcCHNTUOig7dtVEacru2wUMTd__ijcLt_bo73GmZKbdjTV6NSt-pGumxKW9i_ChsFAZMfI7IY6_MTOzMoLtmcHrBUf4row7OdW1RK4qmYZ8C6FA=w400-h300-s-no?authuser=0)

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A selection of geodesic sphere geometry

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOhPvuufHv_D06bXxM7G8os1cvsMqy3UfZRV2GOuONraOKVyViJrniQ_2dql18k7A?key=dF9EdlhQR0I2cnJzcmZ2MF9hclBRSmlHQldRaTl3
Title: Re: Domes
Post by: Theo Gottwald on August 21, 2023, 10:53:17 AM
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Title: Re: Domes
Post by: Charles Pegge on August 25, 2023, 08:57:27 AM
They Built a Rainforest Ecosystem inside a Geodesic Dome

FLORB
9 december 2019

Title: Re: Domes
Post by: Theo Gottwald on August 26, 2023, 08:38:05 AM
Rainforest Trees are much larger in real nature, yet it can be done.

Title: Re: Domes
Post by: Charles Pegge on August 26, 2023, 02:26:43 PM
Small domes made with overlapping plates:

The Hypedome 1 year on...

Chris Devereux


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https://hypedome.com/?ref=S194gmf1gAyf


Other interesting round structures:

7 Unique Prefab Glamping Pods

CGS Tech
9 december 2021