Interactive PowerBasic Forum

General Category => Contentious discussions about anything, the world, politics and health topics. => Topic started by: Charles Pegge on December 14, 2025, 06:30:43 PM

Title: A Neurosurgeon’s Proof of an Immortal Soul | Dr. Michael Egnor American Thought
Post by: Charles Pegge on December 14, 2025, 06:30:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMnLl6M2Dio
Title: Re: A Neurosurgeon’s Proof of an Immortal Soul | Dr. Michael Egnor American Thought
Post by: Stan Duraham on December 18, 2025, 08:13:07 PM
Very interesting and informative. Thanks.

A different perspective, the laws of physics only allow equal and opposite reaction to the unbalanced force.

A while back, I asked Bing AI this question, "In the constraints of materialism, you only have the laws of physics. The laws of physics only allow equal and opposite reaction to the unbalanced force. How is it possible to think in the constraints of materialism when you are only allowed equal and opposite reactions to the unbalanced force?"
It gave a logical answer, might not now. "In the constraints of materialism, the laws of physics dictate that reactions must be equal and opposite to unbalanced forces. However, this framework does not account for the existence of consciousness or the nature of reality beyond physical processes."

Today, I asked Google AI the same question. It kept trying to evade the question.

Finally, I submitted, "You keep evading the question. According to the laws of physics, the ultimate initial cause can only be an equal opposite reaction to the unbalanced state. In your fallacious representation, rocks can think."

Google AI, "In the framework of strict mechanical materialism, your conclusion is a known logical consequence: if thinking is entirely defined by the movement of matter under the laws of physics, then there is no fundamental difference in "kind" between a brain and a rock."

Title: Re: A Neurosurgeon’s Proof of an Immortal Soul | Dr. Michael Egnor American Thought
Post by: Charles Pegge on December 19, 2025, 11:02:11 PM
This school of thought holds that consciousness is prime, and not an epiphenomenon of physical matter. So perhaps consciousness is beyond the scope of AI.

https://noetic.org/