Fat Fiction

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Charles Pegge

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Jul 29, 2021

Theo Gottwald

All the stuff i learned from my Indian Guru 30 Years ago is now slowly getting into the focus of science.
And yes even at that time he already said "this Vaccination is poison".
How could he know?

Charles Pegge

This is not directly related to the covid debakle, but these destructive influences on mankind do seem to be well orchestrated. According to this and several other documentaries, the whole low-fat imperative appears to be down to one individual and his false science: Ancel Keys, forty years ago, promoted for the benefit of big agribiz in the USA.

José Roca

#3
What a load of crap! Charles, it saddens me to see that you too have become an adept to conspiracy theories.

Please, read this detailed post:

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-factual-errors-in-the-documentary-Fat-Fiction

See also:
https://www.dietdoctor.com/fat-fiction-review-despite-missteps-a-message-of-hope

Charles Pegge

#4
This documentary is not so malodorous, and it would take quite a long time to provide counter arguments. However, the second article seems a much more balanced critique.


But for me personally, the documentary rings true. I have tested many different diets to improve my own health condition, and so far, I find that avoiding most forms of grains and legumes  from my diet, and maintaining quite a high fat intake (mostly olive oil and cream - the diet Francais :) ) along with a modest amount of sea food is most beneficial. While I have never had a significant weight problem, allergies have always been a persistent burden, and I have managed to eliminate most of them this year.

As for conspiracy theories - I look for conspiracy facts, drawing upon the wide range of sources that is so freely available on the web.

José Roca

#5
I also follow a low-carb diet because my sugar levels where a little high (120), now back to normal (80), but low in refined carbohydrates and foods with a high glycemic index. But I can eat legumes, that have carbohydrates but a low glycemic index because they contain much fiber and do not produce glycemic spikes.

Being Spanish, you can guess that I consume a lot of olive oil, which is healthy. I also ate nuts (without salt, sugar or saturated fat added), that contain fat, but not saturated fat, and are healthy. The problem is not fat, but saturated fat. It is not the same to eat olive oil (good) that palm oil (very bad).

The main culprit of the obesity epidemic is the junk food, not carbohydrats per se. Ultra-processed food is full of sugar, salt, saturated fat and chemicals.

In the Mediterranean cuisine, we use very much what in Spain we call a "sofrito" (look at the Wikipedia for a description). I make it using extra virgin olive oil, fresh tomatoes, garlic and sweet red paprika (it can also contain onion and spices depending on the dish you are going to cook), but if you buy it in the supermarket, it contains oil of lesser quality and a lot of sugar, salt and chemicals. The first one is healthy; the second one is not, but many people buy it in the supermarket (as well as a lot of processed food) so they don't have to cook. I like to cook and I have time for it.

José Roca


Charles Pegge

#7
Hi José,

The Mediterranean diet is well regarded here, and we depend on a regular supply of Spanish vegetables and olive oil.

Unfortunately I could not access your Nat Geographic link due to a subscription wall but I think I know the arguments, and that things didn't end well for Dr Atkins, who developed the Atkins diet. We are not well adapted for high protein intake.

I have not tried a full-on keto diet for any significant length of time - it makes you feel slightly drunk :).

That said, I was intrigued by this woman's account of a purely carniverous diet; an extreme solution to fix a severe immune condition without medication:

TEDx Wouldn't Post This...
Mikhaila Peterson
Feb 13, 2022


carnivore / lion diet
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Mikhaila Peterson's Oxford Union Debate on Meat
Mikhaila Peterson
Feb 8, 2022


Theo Gottwald

Having been in Italy i must admit that the women in Italy look better then here (see Ricarda Lang, etc.)
So they definitely must do something right with their mediteranean diet.
However let me sit here between the chairs.
From my long year experience in the field of diet i can tell you that there are not many rules that really
account for everybody. I have customers who need 250 mg Vitamin B12 per week, and then they do not need artificial hormons. From the standpoint of "Modern science" this would not make sense as they say that B12 is stored in the body for at least 6 month and a normal person needs much less.
The point is, every person is different and your Job is to get in contact and find out "whats good for you".

There are people who grew up eating a lot of meat and its not a good idea to force them to "Soyland Green".
Other people - from India - live completely vegetarian since young years and it would not be a good idea to force them to eat steaks. Let me just say this as a general statement without going into details.



Charles Pegge

Well here is a doctor that advocates a starchy vegan diet with no oils or fats - the exact opposite of keto/paleo!

I have tried this approach but it makes me feel hungry all the time, and never satisfied.


Eating starches makes my blood sugar spike. How is that good?
Dr. McDougall Health & Medical Center



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My Body Is Attacking Itself! How to cure Autoimmune Diseases by John McDougall, MD
Dr. McDougall Health & Medical Center


Theo Gottwald

The wellknown Author of this famous book about this topic has
made his books now available for public download - in english and german, under this link:

The Book on Ketogenic Diet vs. Cancer

SO i ma sharing this with you all, read it and think about it.

José Roca

Ketogenic Diet Not Suitable For Cancer Patients

One of the main claims of the ketogenic diet is that by cutting out carbohydrates, it starves a tumour of glucose. "This is untrue and there is no science, not a single human trial, to back this up," Dr Power said. "In a ketogenic diet muscle and fat is broken down by the body and converted to glucose which feeds a tumour. Many of the clinical trials on the ketogenic diet in humans have been abandoned," he added.

More: https://www.indi.ie/news/957-ketogenic-diet.html


Charles Pegge

#12
Why We Should Eat A Paleo-ketogenic Diet

Life The Basic Manual
Oct 11, 2017
Dr Sarah Myhill

5mins




Tim Noakes - Carbs Do Not Satisfy Hunger They Stimulate It | Fat & Furious Ep3

Primal Living
Feb 2, 2020


Theo Gottwald

#13
@Jose, if you would kindly download the book and study it, there is a english version.
In this book you will find numerouse studies since 1920 that proof that ketogenic diet -
the right way done (!! as anything!!) will be very beneficial for most deseases especially for cancer  and chemo-therapy patients. I can't tell you what in the book, so read it if you are interested in this topic, and then comment about the book.

Let me ask GPT-4 about it for you:

QuoteThe ketogenic diet is a high-fat, low-carbohydrate diet that has been studied for its potential benefits in cancer treatment. Here are a few reasons why it might be beneficial:

Starving cancer cells: Cancer cells are known to use glucose as their primary source of energy. The ketogenic diet drastically reduces glucose levels and increases ketone bodies produced by the liver from fatty acids. This metabolic state, known as ketosis, can potentially starve cancer cells of their energy source.

Reducing inflammation: Chronic inflammation can contribute to the development and progression of cancer. A ketogenic diet may help reduce inflammation in the body, which could potentially slow the growth of cancer cells.

Enhancing the effectiveness of cancer treatments: Some research suggests that a ketogenic diet could enhance the effectiveness of radiation and chemotherapy. This is because cancer cells, starved of their preferred energy source (glucose), may be more susceptible to these treatments.

Weight management: Many cancer patients struggle with weight loss due to the disease and its treatments. A ketogenic diet can help maintain a healthy weight, as it can reduce hunger and promote satiety.

However, it's important to note that while some studies have shown promising results, more research is needed to fully understand the potential benefits and risks of a ketogenic diet in cancer treatment. It's also crucial that any dietary changes, especially for cancer patients, be made under the supervision of a healthcare provider or a registered dietitian.


José Roca

Charlatans trying to make a buck.

The Silencing of Tim Noakes

"I think he genuinely sees himself as a health messiah," says Jacques Rousseau. "That's why you need to squash dissent, because it's not tolerated. It's religious."

Noakes would phrase it differently. "I was put on this earth, I think, to try and sort out the diabetes problem," he told me.

But has he really?

In fact, Noakes hasn't even succeeded in curing his own diabetes—as he will tell you. He diagnosed himself, based on his blood-sugar levels and family history. Even after a year on the high-fat, low-carb regimen, he told me at breakfast, his fasting glucose had barely budged; it was still hovering above 125. "Nothing happened," he says. So he prescribed himself metformin, a common first-line diabetes drug. "I was on two grams a day, which is a massive dose."

When that didn't work, he added supplements, including berberine, curcumin, and one called N-acetyl cysteine. That finally got his glucose and hemoglobin A1c (another marker of diabetes) under control. "So I'm cured," he says. "But I'm not cured, because I still have to take the medicine."

https://www.outsideonline.com/health/nutrition/silencing-low-carb-rebel/