Hi
Please take a look at https://forum.powerbasic.com/forum/announcements-articles-and-support-faqs/frequently-asked-questions/833672-powerbasic-website-and-forums#post833672

PB forum may be going dark very soon, as there is no management response to members' queries about future
stake of the PB forum.

It was already dead many moons ago!

I wonder if we will ever see it released as open source? Preserved for posterity and potentially resurrected by AI in 64bit form.

they should ask jrs 

I have already opened an Topic on this, here:

Powerbasic Forum offline?

I have reached out to the Drakes via email, offering to host the forum at no cost to them. Unfortunately, I have not received a response from any of the email addresses I have for them.

The only chance I see is if someone is truly from the USA and is nearby, they can drive there and personally reach out to the Drakes to confirm their existence and the existence of their company, and find out what's going on with PowerBasic.

From my current perspective, we will keep this forum up and we invite all people that are currently in the PowerBasic forum to switch to Jose's forum here. We are willing to give them a new home.

I have been banned from the PowerBasicForum, so I am unable to download or post anything there.

If anyone is still a member of the PowerBasicForum, please invite others to join our forum and switch over. Let's keep things going!

Please also share your favorite code samples and discussions from the PowerBasic forum with us here!
Copy them there and post them here.
We welcome your contributions and would greatly appreciate it if you could copy and paste them into our forum.

This will ensure that they remain accessible for all Powerbasic fans for future reference.

#PowerBasic #CodeSamples #ForumDiscussions #PowerBasicForum #ForumSwitch
#USA #Drakes #PowerBasic

I tried using a web copier to copy the PB forum but it won't work, I suspect that it may be due to corruption in it's database, see https://forum.powerbasic.com/forum/user-to-user-discussions/powerbasic-for-windows/833998-gbthreads4?p=834010#post834010

Quote from: Eric Pearson;n834010Jules,

That's a tough one. To find a vBulletin thread, all you really need is the thread ID number. Unfortunately, the numbers are messed up. Looking for thread 46067 mentioned above, this URL...

https://forum.powerbasic.com/forum/user-to-user-discussions/programming/46067

...will take you to...

https://forum.powerbasic.com/forum/user-to-user-discussions/cafe-powerbasic/46067-windows-7-appearance-question

...which doesn't mention WinSpy. Notice that vBulletin figured out that 46067 wasn't actually in the /programming/ subforum.

There were two corruptions that I know about, which were a result of improperly-performed vBulletin updates or botched database "maintenance", before we ever moved to the vBulletin Cloud. I suppose the whole mess could be unwrapped by identifying the corrupt date ranges, but it wouldn't be a trivial task.

Get as much over than you can.
If you have a database to import tell me.

Possible Forum offshoot:

PowerBASIC Users Meeting Point
Albert Richheimer
http://pump.richheimer.de/

QuoteDear visitor

This is a test setup for creating an alternative forum. Just in case the forum at PowerBasic.com should be shut down, we will have here a place to meet up and share techniques and ideas.

http://pump.richheimer.de/portal.php
http://pump.richheimer.de/member.php
-->
powerbasic-com-website-problems/page10

https://forum.powerbasic.com/forum/user-to-user-discussions/powerbasic-console-compiler/831509-powerbasic-com-website-problems/page10

The above thread has just disappeared but this thread is still present (with a new message)
https://forum.powerbasic.com/forum/user-to-user-discussions/powerbasic-for-windows/833673-powerbasic-website-and-forums-discussion/page5#post834190

QuoteTorkel M Jodalen
Torkel M Jodalen
Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 38
#94
Today, 06:18 AM
Back in 2017, Vivian Zale commented that Tom Hanlin was busy at work with the beta compilers, keeping PowerBASIC on a path to future growth. The post is long gone from these forums, but it remains available at web.archive.org. Tom Hanlin wrote, on a different forum, back in 2013, about the future of PowerBASIC: "I see three products about ready to go".
But this (apparent) effort obviously led to nothing at all. At some point in time there was also a Mr. Bailey involved, IIRC about the same time as the source code for versions 10.04 and 6.04 was lost by some sort of mishap or accident.

If nothing else, at the very least the PowerBASIC story deserves a proper closing chapter - shedding light on what really took place in the scenes. Were they close to releasing anything new at all? Or was it all smoke and mirrors? Releasing the PB source code to the public domain would be a nice gesture, but nothing that can be expected.

Bon voyage and thanks to those of you who have kept this place a valuable source of programming knowledge.
Eric Pearson
Eric Pearson
Member
Join Date: Oct 1987
Posts: 10467
#95
Today, 11:30 AM
I can confirm that Vivian was being truthful in 2017, but Tom was being overly optimistic in 2013, to say the very least. I'll go out on an NDA limb and say that beta testing was, in fact, underway when Bob died suddenly in late 2012, but the process was not far enough along and the compilers were not yet stable. Later, given the skills of the people that we had available to work on Bob's beta code at that deep level, progress was slow and error-prone.

My memory is fuzzy, but IIRC a significant bug was found in 10.04 at some point after it was released, but before Bob died. Maybe not. Anyway, everybody was advised to roll back to 10.03, which had a less critical bug, and an update 10.04b was planned. 10.04 was originally supposed to have been a final tweak of version 10/6. Bob usually did a catch-up version like that when beta testing of something new was underway.

During an early revival attempt, errors were made in the 10.04 code and proper backup procedures had not been followed, so 10.03 became the last-known-good build.

Also the way I remember it, Bob and Tom had parted ways long before Bob died. Vivian contacted Tom quite some time later, after some other comeback plans (that nobody knows about) fell through. So I don't know what Tom would have been talking about in 2013.
"Not my circus, not my monkeys."

Possibly the PB-Forum will stay open at least for a while.
But there is no information if there is any moderation for the Forum or if you can register as a new member.

See:
https://forum.powerbasic.com/forum/announcements-articles-and-support-faqs/frequently-asked-questions/833672-powerbasic-website-and-forums#post833672

Good we are independent. And we can still read it as a Museum sort of.

Another relevant thread on the PB forum:

Do you need a 64 bit compiler

https://forum.powerbasic.com/forum/user-to-user-discussions/powerbasic-for-windows/833839-do-you-need-a-64-bit-compiler

That is kind of ..why..why...
yes ...we like or not like ..everything move to 64bit
I still use 32bit compilation of o2 programs and i don't make
any programs in PowerBasic ..so i don't know why this
should be important ..for any hobby programmer around.
Another thing is if someone is used to use Powerbasic for his own commercial
programs ..also this types of programs are now a history.
I think that PowerBasic "users" must figured when something is over.
I figured 10 or more years ago that IonicWind Basic(EmergenceBasic) is not for me
and i switched to OxygenBasic. 

I am interested to know how keen they are. I don't think anyone will be able or willing  to translate Bob's source code to 64bit, but would they be willing to put a team together to make a PB front end. It could be based on C++ / BCX / FreeBasic / or dare I say, OxygenBasic, which would be a tool-chain independent option.

Quoteor dare I say, OxygenBasic, which would be a tool-chain independent option.

heh ...i get it Charles